Forums - Anakaris? The worst character in MVC2? Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Strategy & Tactics (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10) -- Anakaris? The worst character in MVC2? (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=26108) Posted by TheMummy on June 19th, 2001 01:03 PM: Anakaris? The worst character in MVC2? Many players said that ANAKARIS is the worst character in MVC2 because no one uses him at all. Many players tend to be confused with his moves so he is the worst, WHY?????? Posted by tortoise on June 19th, 2001 01:48 PM: Roll, Amingo, Zangief and Shuma are worse than Anakaris. __________________ It's easy, just don't let Cable kick you. ----- http://www.gbafan.net Posted by wildfire on June 19th, 2001 02:13 PM: he may be the hardest to use but definitely not THE worst __________________ Marvel vs Capcom 2 for life Posted by Lord Doom on June 19th, 2001 02:16 PM: I really only have one problem with him, he has got to be the easiest thing to guard break. I mean there are literally times in which you could guard break him, get something to eat and still come back to kill him before he hits the ground. Its worse than Neo Geo load time. __________________ "Now you face Doom"- Dr. Doom, Marvel Super Heroes Posted by Sentinels Force on June 19th, 2001 04:29 PM: no man u crazy the worst character in MvsC 2 is dan servebot zangief roll __________________ S.O.D. Sentinel of Destruction Sentinel: haaa rocket punch shit fly Posted by Pitt on June 19th, 2001 04:33 PM: hmmph When you know how to use him, Anakaris is one of the better characters in the game. His major drawback, though is that he takes hits like a bitch. As for Zangief being bad...WTF?! You guys have obviously never played anyone skilled with him. Zangief is one of my best characters. You should be ashamed of yourself for grouping him with Roll. Posted by BRENT on June 19th, 2001 04:46 PM: In the right hands any character can be a great one. I've seen Roll players that would bring tears to your eyes. I personally like Anakaris, his attacks are confusing and powerful. Besides, everyone knows Cable is the worst, most one-dimensional character. Posted by Dasrik on June 19th, 2001 07:24 PM: BRENT, you're full of shit. Die. That being said, opinions of Anak wildly vary. Some say he's upper tier, others say he's bottom feeder. He does have his problems; however, I see lots of characters being very obviously worse - Shuma, Zangief, Roll, Hayato, Dan. __________________ Unleash the Armageddon so all the children go to heaven... Posted by BRENT on June 19th, 2001 07:44 PM: Ha ha! I knew I would a nasty resonse for that one. Posted by FluffyXXL on June 19th, 2001 08:40 PM: Anakaris isn't that bad. It's just that most people don't understand what he can do. He's also very difficult to play because he has some of the most timing-intensive combos in the game. I think Anakaris has good matches against a few top tier characters, namely Doom, Blackheart, Cyclops and Storm. He does not to well against Magneto, Strider, Cable, and Sentinel. The Positives: -Ranged throws. Anakaris is the only character that can hit you with a throw at longer than close range. His throw is actually very good for disrupting ground traps, as he becomes invincible upon grabbing someone. You can't throw fireballs at him on the ground. You can't blindly throw out attacks on the ground to see if he dashes into them. When used correctly, his ranged throws vastly improve his overall game. Oh, and they do a lot of damage for a throw. -Ranged Limbs. He's not quite Dhalsim, but he does have increased range on his limbs. This makes him a very good counter poke character. You just can't dash at him blindly. -Massively damaging combos. ACing a Pharoah Magic does a lot of damage. His Pharoah Cobra Blow does a whole lot of damage in the corner. His normal ACs can take off a lot as well. -Fast overhead. His J.D.Kick can be so fast and can lead to combos. -Coffin Drop. Most people don't understand how to utilize the Hitsugi No Mai. When executed, it falls from the top of the screen to the bottom. With that in mind, it will hit characters that at SJ height much faster than it will characters on the ground. When characters like Storm, Blackheart, Iron Man and Cyclops that might decide to SJ and build meter "safely", the coffins make this a very bad idea. You also have the repeated Hitsugi No Mai at SJ height, which owns all big guys for free since then have to block the Roundhouse-Hitsugi No Mai. It can also lead to some good mind games and cause an opponent to waste meters to try to take you out of the air. The Hitsugi No Mai has really fast recovery, so you have to be really predictable to get hit out of it. -Cobra Blow. At maximum range, Jab-Cobra Blow gives him a fairly safe ground chain that you can use in conjunction with assists to work a kind of rushdown strategy. Most people don't think Anakaris has the option to rushdown, but his extended limb length and fast overhead give him a lot of options in the department, moreso than basic rushdown characters like Wolverine. The Not So Positive: -Anakaris doesn't have a dominant assist. His throw is probably his best, but it requires a bit of getting used too. -While he has an air dash, it isn't the best in the game. It does make him fairly small when he does it, but there is no fast way to make his air dash stop earlier. The Negatives: -Anakaris should never jump unless it's for an overhead or unless it's a super jump. His jump is so slow that it leads to easy guard breaks. His Super Jump attacks are even better than his normal jump attacks. S.J.Roundhouse has half the screen range. -He has very low stamina, i believe the same as Akuma. -As previously stated, his combos are very difficult to pull off and require lots of practice. Most people are turned off by this. The amount of time required to learn Anakaris and make him competitive is much longer than required for top tier and even other 2nd tier characters. Combine that with the fact that he doesn't to well against Cable, and most people are very turned off by him. __________________ FluffyXXL -Retired as of 8/5/01 Posted by TheMummy on June 20th, 2001 11:05 AM: I knew it, ANAKARIS is not the worst character in MVC2!!! He also has the guts and can defeat the top-tiers of the game! Sorry to those who hate him. Posted by JChristopher on June 20th, 2001 04:39 PM: quote: Originally posted by TheMummy I knew it, ANAKARIS is not the worst character in MVC2!!! He also has the guts and can defeat the top-tiers of the game! Sorry to those who hate him. 9/10 Anakaris haters are Cable abusers. Just a bunch o dumb people always looking for the easiest win, never trying to innovate and actually enjoy the game. BTW you from Manila?? You should try my Strider-Doom sometime!! I'm an SM North Quantum Arcade regular. And if you're lucky, you'll get to take part in (randomly generated) weekly 20+ man mini-tourneys!! __________________ For Advanced MvC2 Strategies and Animated Gifs, click here: http://www.geocities.com/msfjoseph All the firepower in the world don't mean jack if you can't hit me Posted by StiltMan on June 20th, 2001 04:51 PM: quote: Originally posted by FluffyXXL -He has very low stamina, i believe the same as Akuma. Not as bad as that, no: quote: Originally posted by DannyCat on alt.games.sf2 Dan's Otoko Michi, done on default damage level(Lv.2), out of 144 possible points in a health bar: Takes 137 damage: Akuma, Kobun, Roll, "Bonerine" Takes 125 damage: Anakaris, Wolvy, Strider, Spidey Takes 118 damage: Morrigan, Sonson, Marrow Takes 112 damage: Iceman, Dhalsim, Psylocke, Cammy, Shuma, Felicia, Dan Takes 106 damage: Megaman, Chun-Li, Jill, Magneto, Spiral, Hayato, Storm, Ken, BBH, Sabretooth Takes 100 damage: Ryu, Charlie, Ruby Heart, Cable, Gambit, Guile, Amingo, Captain Commando, Cyclops, War Machine, Iron Man, Bison, Jin, Sakura, Venom Takes 93 damage: Rogue, Omega Red, Thanos, Silver Samurai, Tron Bonne, Captain America, Dr. Doom Takes 87 damage: Zangief, Hulk, Juggernaut, Blackheart Takes 81 damage: Colossus Takes 75 damage: Sentinel (emphasis added) So no, Anakaris can't really take a hit worth a bean, but he's not quite on the bottom stamina tier. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by Ryu-ism on June 20th, 2001 06:41 PM: I really don't know why they toned him down so much. I mean they took away half of his moves from DS/VS/ect. You used to be able to rotate the joystick during his grab to get more damage...Oh well. Ana is ok, but he has alot more negatives than postives. Heh, I used to use him in my "Gods" team of Ana/Amig/Son. But hat team just sucked. Posted by Dark-Angel on June 20th, 2001 09:22 PM: Hey Dan is not a worst char man I use him and I kick ASS!!! Posted by NIN_CrimzinTerry on June 21st, 2001 01:44 AM: Umm anakaris is far from being the worst ask Sodom and Zangeif is actaully pritty damn GOOD. Its all about mecha zangeif assist the standing lariat one you can connect so much off that sentiel air combo AHVB a lot of shit __________________ "I am the voice inside your head, and I control you"-Trent Reznor Posted by Sepehr on June 21st, 2001 01:59 AM: ChiQ Man you have not seen anything yet. You have to see ChiQ's Anaka, When he beat the shit out of your team with just one Anaka then you will change your mind about him. Posted by DeathFromAbove on June 21st, 2001 02:01 AM: I disagree on the assist type. I like variety. It works well for setting traps, and really hurts Doom & BH's game. -DFA __________________ Insert witty comment here. Posted by Trouble on June 21st, 2001 05:21 AM: I used to think that Anakaris was a horoble character to use. But last couple of times i've played I used him and I decided to learn some stuff with him. Now that i'm good with him I think that he was awesome. You can combo some many moves into his specials and his combos are really easy to do. And for the record the worst character is definitely Roll! __________________ Nuff said Posted by Monkey on June 21st, 2001 05:47 AM: quote: Originally posted by tortoise Roll, Amingo, Zangief and Shuma are worse than Anakaris. Roll yes. The others, no. Amingo is really good. Zangief, well not really. Shuma isnt all that bad either. __________________ Infinites R Us.. Magneto, Psylocke, Storm, Cyclops, Dr. Doom, Chun Li, Cammy, Silver Samurai Posted by Trouble on June 21st, 2001 06:26 AM: I think that Gorath is way better than Anakaris in my opinion. I think that they are both underused characters and they deserve to be used because they are handy and Gorath's Chaos Demension is the shit. His moves are easy to do as is Anakaris's. __________________ Nuff said Posted by Danger Moose on June 21st, 2001 09:06 AM: i think the worst character in the game is silver samurai, that guy is slow and is a big target and only has one way to do damage, that lightning super, no good assists either Posted by TheMummy on June 21st, 2001 02:52 PM: quote: Originally posted by JChristopher 9/10 Anakaris haters are Cable abusers. Just a bunch o dumb people always looking for the easiest win, never trying to innovate and actually enjoy the game. BTW you from Manila?? You should try my Strider-Doom sometime!! I'm an SM North Quantum Arcade regular. And if you're lucky, you'll get to take part in (randomly generated) weekly 20+ man mini-tourneys!! Yeah, I'm from Manila. Where you from? How come? __________________ Teams that owns all: Anakaris, Dr. Doom, Storm Cable, Psylocke, Anakaris Iron Man, War Machine, Psylocke Anakaris, Morrigan, BB Hood And I'm the only GOOD ANAKARIS user on RP!!! If The Mummy Returns, ANAKARIS RETURNS!!! Posted by JChristopher on June 21st, 2001 03:34 PM: quote: Originally posted by TheMummy Yeah, I'm from Manila. Where you from? How come? Manila too And what did you mean by "How come?" So when can I play you? __________________ For Advanced MvC2 Strategies and Animated Gifs, click here: http://www.geocities.com/msfjoseph All the firepower in the world don't mean jack if you can't hit me Posted by StiltMan on June 21st, 2001 05:02 PM: quote: Originally posted by Danger Moose i think the worst character in the game is silver samurai, that guy is slow and is a big target and only has one way to do damage, that lightning super, no good assists either Uh, dude... you have absolutely no blooming idea what you're talking about. Yes, he's a bit big and slow, but he has some excellent tools to work with if he has meter. He has two excellent chipping supers in the hyper shuriken and the icy floor, both of which are pretty much completely safe if blocked. The lightning super is not only one of the better few assist killing supers in the game, but the only super that even gives it an argument for being the best flight-stopper is the hail storm. If someone flies on you for any length of time more than a quick fly, stomp, unfly, the lightning super will pretty quickly cut them down. In the assist department, his shuriken isn't the worst horizontal controller in the world, but probably his best one is the apple slicer. (i.e. the Ukyoesque sword slash) It controls the ground fairly well at close range, and you can either set up or continue combos off of it without much trouble. Samurai is very easily second tier. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by tortoise on June 21st, 2001 05:42 PM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan Samurai is very easily second tier. Samurai is a bastard. I'm so clueless on how to fight Samurai teams that I always lose to them (because I so rarely fight against them). His shoryuken are excellent space controllers; you must react to them, simply blocking them is not a good plan. Where as clearly bottom dweller material I never have any problems with, even if I've never seen a good shuma or roll before, they still die to the standard stuff. __________________ It's easy, just don't let Cable kick you. ----- http://www.gbafan.net Posted by rusbar on June 21st, 2001 06:09 PM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan Uh, dude... you have absolutely no blooming idea what you're talking about. Yes, he's a bit big and slow, but he has some excellent tools to work with if he has meter. He has two excellent chipping supers in the hyper shuriken and the icy floor, both of which are pretty much completely safe if blocked. The lightning super is not only one of the better few assist killing supers in the game, but the only super that even gives it an argument for being the best flight-stopper is the hail storm. If someone flies on you for any length of time more than a quick fly, stomp, unfly, the lightning super will pretty quickly cut them down. In the assist department, his shuriken isn't the worst horizontal controller in the world, but probably his best one is the apple slicer. (i.e. the Ukyoesque sword slash) It controls the ground fairly well at close range, and you can either set up or continue combos off of it without much trouble. Samurai is very easily second tier. haha,i see you still remember your close defeat by sherwin his anakaris kicks butay too __________________ bettah call me BUTTAH. . .cuz i'm onna ROLL! Posted by StiltMan on June 21st, 2001 07:02 PM: quote: Originally posted by rusbar haha,i see you still remember your close defeat by sherwin his anakaris kicks butay too It's not just Sherwin who contributed to that commentary... I've seen a few good ones elsewhere, too, some of which were deadlier in some ways than Sherwin's. One Samurai I ran into in Sacramento was able to pull multiple lightning supers on helpers with some sort of juggle, so if you hung a helper on them you could potentially lose it the first time, whereas I've only seen Sherwin pull one lightning at a time. The chipping from the shurikens, I already knew about, the ability to stop fliers is pretty intuitive (though I drew a blank on it with Sentinel in our first match)... the main thing I learned about playing against Samurai from Sherwin that I hadn't either seen or figured out before was the fact that his normals chip when he's iced up, and that if you multi-ice him the ice floor chips more. But yes, Sherwin's proved that if you've got a good enough Samurai, you can put him on a tournament team and get away with it. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by Danger Moose on June 21st, 2001 07:06 PM: oooo wow... chip damage... it's really hard to do that... ehh maybe he has a couple of uses in certain situations while on point with super to use, but his assists are shitty, you can see them coming, counter assist and safely cover your assist so cable projectile assist nullifies silver samurai's assists basically still, i will never play, nor lose to silver samurai, and i have played silver samurai guys before, they do that one lightning super four times in a row, i block it and kill them when they have no supers left Posted by Kao_ Ryuu on June 21st, 2001 08:23 PM: cheh Zangief owns everyone Except top tier. My continous Rape strategy is unbeatable. hey,hey,OK!!!!!!! __________________ " Feel the Power of the Kage Ryuu!" Posted by FluffyXXL on June 21st, 2001 08:34 PM: quote: Originally posted by Kao_ Ryuu cheh Zangief owns everyone Except top tier. My continous Rape strategy is unbeatable. I've seen a lot of Zangief love on this thread, and I must say it's hilarious. Zangief is by far a low tier character. There are no matches where zangief is the favorable character against anyone above the low tier. Any projectile based character will easily keep zangief away with a combination of fireballs and assists. Zangief cannot wave dash. He has no distance game. He has no way to get in. Even rushdown characters that he's supposed to beat can beat him purely on their speed (or his lack of speed) alone. Even when Zangief goes mech (which wastes a meter and opens you up to direct assault while in recovery), Zangief does not win matches against rushdown like Magneto or Storm and probably not even against Wolverine. In order for Zangief to win, people have to repeatedly dash at him so he can do long range jab SPDs. Zangief has no big damage combos. He has no way to set up a FAB, other than having a stupid opponent that doesn't understand the concept of "jump". His assist, which is only good against rushdown, is useful, but tends to get killed rather speedily by things like AHVB and magneto. List of characters zangief will never grab: Storm, Spiral, Sentinel, Cable, Blackheart, Strider, Doom, Magneto, Cyclops, Iceman, Iron Man, War Machine, Omega Red, Ruby Heart, Megaman, do I need to go on? __________________ FluffyXXL -Retired as of 8/5/01 Posted by Trouble on June 21st, 2001 08:53 PM: I don't see why you would say that Zangief is a bad player? Whats better than a powerhouse who's moves are unblockable? I for one think that hes an excellent player to use and he is usually one of my "comeback characters". If you don't think that hes a good player to use then you should try him out in the training room and learn some stuff with him then I'm sure that you will change your mind about Zangeif not being a good person to use. You should use his throw assist type because its also unblockable. Just get somewhat close to your opponent and call him out....next thing you know Zangief is powerbombing your opponent and you can pick up a combo from there. __________________ Nuff said Posted by StiltMan on June 21st, 2001 08:56 PM: quote: Originally posted by Danger Moose oooo wow... chip damage... it's really hard to do that... In the quantities that those do? There aren't that many in the game that will do that safely. Doom-B, Spiral-A, and the Servbot legion are about the only things that come to mind. quote: ehh maybe he has a couple of uses in certain situations while on point with super to use, but his assists are shitty, you can see them coming, counter assist and safely cover your assist so cable projectile assist nullifies silver samurai's assists basically Actually, the apple slicer can be stuck into the middle of combo and you can continue comboing after it without having to do an OTG. Picture the uses Magneto could have for something like that. quote: still, i will never play, nor lose to silver samurai, and i have played silver samurai guys before, they do that one lightning super four times in a row, i block it and kill them when they have no supers left No, you won't. Because if you're up against a competent Samurai player, and they used four lightning supers on you, it's going to be because of one of the following situations: 1. They hit you with an assist that sets it up, and just killed one or two of your characters. 2. You didn't just hang one assist, you hung both of them on him, because four lightning supers is enough to kill two assist characters. 3. You went and flew on him and he introduced you to the reason you shouldn't. You're not sounding like quite as big an idiot as someone who'd say Cable's no big deal, you'll just block it when they AHVB you over and over and then kill them when they have no meters left... but it's pretty damn close. Samurai with meter is a force to be reckoned with. He has some pretty bad matchups, true (Blackheart comes to mind), but he does not suck, and he's nowhere near the worst character in the game. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by Dilated Hadashi on June 21st, 2001 09:02 PM: and I'm gonna fill you in like craig david... samurai has arguebly the best uniform[assist 1] in the game... been playing mad amounts of samurai, and nothing but love __________________ -- I'm kinda like an epiphany, I'll get to you eventually -- Posted by tortoise on June 21st, 2001 09:14 PM: quote: Originally posted by Trouble I don't see why you would say that Zangief is a bad player? Whats better than a powerhouse who's moves are unblockable? How does Zangief land these moves? How will he get close? Can he double jump? teleport? air dash? wave dash? triangle jump? super armor? Is he small? Anything at all? He's practically the most immobile character in the entire game, who's entire gameplan revolves around getting close. Not a good thing in a game where keepaway is so strong. Any team with a decent AAA will stop Gief cold. Dead cold. Matches against anyone with even an iota of keepaway are sad affairs for the Russian. If you can make come backs with Gief, then I'm afraid you're not playing against very bright people __________________ It's easy, just don't let Cable kick you. ----- http://www.gbafan.net Posted by DeathFromAbove on June 21st, 2001 11:44 PM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan One Samurai I ran into in Sacramento was able to pull multiple lightning supers on helpers with some sort of juggle, so if you hung a helper on them you could potentially lose it the first time... Using assists? Maybe you could elaborate a bit on this? Thanx. __________________ Insert witty comment here. Posted by StiltMan on June 22nd, 2001 12:06 AM: quote: Originally posted by DeathFromAbove Using assists? Maybe you could elaborate a bit on this? It was a good year ago that I saw it, it was down in Sacramento, and I've never attempted to duplicate it myself, so don't hold me too hard on this. But the example I'm thinking of, was with my old XXX/Doom/Cammy teams, with XXX as either Rogue or Sentinel. I believe the guy was either roasting Cammy while she was still in the air from the cannon spike or he was launching her and then roasting her. Either way, the quick release and recovery on the lightning super was allowing him to basically juggle her from one lightning blast to the next without ever letting her get back to the ground, and he mashed it hard enough that just a couple or three was enough to fry her. It uncombos all on its own anyway (it's fast, but it's not that fast) so I imagine it isn't even that hard to make sure you get full damage out of each meter. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by Naslectronical on June 22nd, 2001 12:17 AM: Zangief is by FAR the worst character in the game. Capcom could have atleast given him a fire ball or something. __________________ Master of Electricity Intergalactic Warrior Where's mah pie bitch?!?! Sentinel/Cable/Capcom Sentinel/Storm/Capcom Sentinel/Cable/Blackheart Sentinel/Storm/Blackheart Sentinel/Magneto/Blackheart Posted by Amdabes on June 22nd, 2001 12:21 AM: ANAKARIS is an awsome character! In the right hands, he can be a top tier character. There's that one Japan dude that used anakris during the USA vs. Japan thing. He lost all his matches but so did most of the other players on his team. I'm sure that guy could take down almost any team with his anakaris, hey, that's why he was put on the Japan team. __________________ T-A-Double-L-Double-U-Double-O-D! Posted by HuStLeMaN17 on June 22nd, 2001 01:25 AM: You guys should take Stiltman seriously, he happens to know alot about the game of mvc2. I have also played against Sherwins Morrigan/S.S./T.Bonne team and he is so deadly with that it . Just dont take what Stiltman says so lightly. __________________ Soon To Be Proud Owner Of A Nintendo GameCube Posted by Danger Moose on June 22nd, 2001 02:26 AM: uhh i'll believe it when i see it and/or lose to it worst characters in my order, 1 being the worst 1: Roll 2: Zangief 3: Kobun 4: Silver Samurai 5: Anakaris Posted by Vonstar on June 22nd, 2001 02:34 AM: i know some really good zangief players in my area, they're incredibly good with him, like they always land his throwing super off that spinny hand thing or whatever, arm whirlwind i dunno. but he can be descent if used smartly, just like any other character really Posted by Vonstar on June 22nd, 2001 02:38 AM: sherwin is damn good with s.s/morrigan/t.bonne he can own cheese teams with that Posted by HuStLeMaN17 on June 22nd, 2001 02:39 AM: quote: Originally posted by Danger Moose uhh i'll believe it when i see it and/or lose to it worst characters in my order, 1 being the worst 1: Roll 2: Zangief 3: Kobun 4: Silver Samurai 5: Anakaris So your sayin that Zangief is better then roll, what the hell kind of crack are you on. And SilverSam 4th __________________ Soon To Be Proud Owner Of A Nintendo GameCube Posted by TheMummy on June 22nd, 2001 03:27 AM: quote: Originally posted by JChristopher Manila too And what did you mean by "How come?" So when can I play you? So youre a Pinoy, I went to SM North maybe only once a month. But I can go to SM City Manila instead(QUANTUM). It's nearer. But if you will insist, i'll try. __________________ Teams that owns all: Anakaris, Dr. Doom, Storm Cable, Psylocke, Anakaris Iron Man, War Machine, Psylocke Anakaris, Morrigan, BB Hood And I'm the only GOOD ANAKARIS user on RP!!! If The Mummy Returns, ANAKARIS RETURNS!!! Posted by DannyCat on June 22nd, 2001 04:34 AM: quote: Originally posted by Trouble I don't see why you would say that Zangief is a bad player? Whats better than a powerhouse who's moves are unblockable? I for one think that hes an excellent player to use and he is usually one of my "comeback characters". If you don't think that hes a good player to use then you should try him out in the training room and learn some stuff with him then I'm sure that you will change your mind about Zangeif not being a good person to use. You should use his throw assist type because its also unblockable. Just get somewhat close to your opponent and call him out....next thing you know Zangief is powerbombing your opponent and you can pick up a combo from there. 1. He's slow. But he needs to get close to use his grabs. 2. He cannot grab assists. Tossing assists at him and running away will prevent him from getting to you. 3. His conventional attacks, on assists, leave him wide open as a barn door. 4. There is no point #4. 5. His throw-type assist only connects if the opponent is on the ground and not blocking something. Given that you can always always always hold up-back in these situations and get out, it's not likely to connect on awake opponents. Yeah, it'll work a few times in a surprise attack mode, but Rogue's better at this. __________________ "Hitomi ni utsuru kagayaku hoshi wa..." "...minna no ashita wo michibiku hikari!" "Ima, sono hikari wo ooi naru chikara ni kaete! Haja Kensei - OUKA RANBU!!" Posted by illest_one on June 22nd, 2001 10:07 AM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan One Samurai I ran into in Sacramento was able to pull multiple lightning supers on helpers with some sort of juggle, so if you hung a helper on them you could potentially lose it the first time, whereas I've only seen Sherwin pull one lightning at a time. ah ha. i knew silversam was gonna be on here. im surprised that nobody mentioned morrigan yet. i also do that multiple lightning super but you got to position your opponent correctly. anakaris is definitely one of the most underrated characters in the game. sure his defense is one of the worst but he has the one most damaging super in the game, good rushdown, good keep away, an infinite, speed and unpredictability. try connecting all of the hits with his super coffin drop cuz it takes 70% life if im not mistaken. anakaris believe it or not has a pretty good rushdown game with his pyramid thingy. i play anakaris like i play rogue. his coffin drops take a lot of life but just beware of commando users. he is not as slow as people seem to think. his ground dashes are pretty quick but one should NEVER EVER blindly normal jump unless its absolutely necessary (combos and rushdown). blah...anakaris is a really fun character to use! just the look on your opponent's face after u beat him with an anakaris team is worth the 2 tokens. __________________ "I been patient now I'm back with another one no press, gangstas don't give statements your too blatant, Bentleys, Porsches racin tank rollies, cardies give em face lifts I keep it real basic fuck you duke I made you why would I play you" Blu Cantrell feat. FOXY BROWN - "Hit 'Em Up Style Remix" Posted by HuStLeMaN17 on June 22nd, 2001 02:45 PM: quote: Originally posted by illest_one ah ha. i knew silversam was gonna be on here. im surprised that nobody mentioned morrigan yet. i also do that multiple lightning super but you got to position your opponent correctly. anakaris is definitely one of the most underrated characters in the game. sure his defense is one of the worst but he has the one most damaging super in the game, good rushdown, good keep away, an infinite, speed and unpredictability. try connecting all of the hits with his super coffin drop cuz it takes 70% life if im not mistaken. anakaris believe it or not has a pretty good rushdown game with his pyramid thingy. i play anakaris like i play rogue. his coffin drops take a lot of life but just beware of commando users. he is not as slow as people seem to think. his ground dashes are pretty quick but one should NEVER EVER blindly normal jump unless its absolutely necessary (combos and rushdown). blah...anakaris is a really fun character to use! just the look on your opponent's face after u beat him with an anakaris team is worth the 2 tokens. Yo whats up Sherwin I did mention your Morrigan a little eariler in this thread, I must say that you guys out there havent seen anakariz at his best until you see this guy play him ^ ___ ^ __________________ Soon To Be Proud Owner Of A Nintendo GameCube Posted by JChristopher on June 22nd, 2001 04:08 PM: quote: Originally posted by TheMummy So youre a Pinoy, I went to SM North maybe only once a month. But I can go to SM City Manila instead(QUANTUM). It's nearer. But if you will insist, i'll try. I almost never go to SM Manila, but I'm not forcing you to come to SM North. If ever you drop by and see a Strider-Doom user that looks like he's in his "pambahay" then that would be me. BTW I'd like to try your Anakaris out __________________ For Advanced MvC2 Strategies and Animated Gifs, click here: http://www.geocities.com/msfjoseph All the firepower in the world don't mean jack if you can't hit me Posted by StiltMan on June 22nd, 2001 06:12 PM: quote: Originally posted by Danger Moose uhh i'll believe it when i see it and/or lose to it worst characters in my order, 1 being the worst 1: Roll 2: Zangief 3: Kobun 4: Silver Samurai 5: Anakaris Sorry... you really don't know what you're talking about. Having the letters "CA" in your location field of your profile does not automatically mean you're not an idiot. Anakaris, I would say, is in the middle of the pack somewhere. He's not just astoundingly great, and nearly any team with Blackheart or Commando on it is probably going to hang him with his own bandages. However, if you don't have those or other similar tools to keep him on the ground, you're only rarely going to touch him. He can go up in the air, drop coffins on you all day, and you'll pretty much never get near him. Silver Samurai... I'm sorry, you've simply proven magnificently that you've never seen a good one in your miserable life. "Gee, I'll let him do his four lightning supers in a row, block them all, then kill them." Okay, question for the peanut gallery: how many characters in the game would not suck in the hands of someone who doesn't know any better than to just throw several consecutive random supers? Wait, that brings me to Servbot. If he has five meters and Doom-B behind him, one of your characters is going to die. I am not kidding. Servbot calls Doom and inundates you in the eeping, peeping helicopter crazed legion, and a fifth of your life goes away for free. After he's emptied his meter, you've either swapped characters or the guy you had on point is dead. Roll, Zangief and Dan are pretty solid locks for being the worst characters in the game. Hayato is probably knocking on the door. Silver Samurai is much closer to the top (as tortoise said, if you don't know how to play against him, he's an absolute terror in good hands), Anakaris is in the middle somewhere. Shuma Gorath is often nominated for being pretty bad, and I'll agree that he's fairly low on the list, but I'm not sold on him being bottom five. __________________ Curse of the Stilt Man status: Seventeen of the last twenty-five first round opponents (or bye round potentials) have gone two-and-out, two have gone out in three, four have gone out in four, one has placed 7th, one has placed 5th (out of 11). Both first round opponents in the pools at B5 were defeated. Always wear your seatbelt. Posted by HuStLeMaN17 on June 22nd, 2001 06:19 PM: Another guy you guys are forgetting about is venom Stiltman where would you place him on the list? __________________ Soon To Be Proud Owner Of A Nintendo GameCube Posted by Danger Moose on June 22nd, 2001 08:57 PM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan Sorry... you really don't know what you're talking about. Having the letters "CA" in your location field of your profile does not automatically mean you're not an idiot. Anakaris, I would say, is in the middle of the pack somewhere. He's not just astoundingly great, and nearly any team with Blackheart or Commando on it is probably going to hang him with his own bandages. However, if you don't have those or other similar tools to keep him on the ground, you're only rarely going to touch him. He can go up in the air, drop coffins on you all day, and you'll pretty much never get near him. Silver Samurai... I'm sorry, you've simply proven magnificently that you've never seen a good one in your miserable life. haha! i win! you were the first to give into emotion and insult! Siddhartha would be proud of me Posted by TheMummy on June 24th, 2001 09:05 AM: quote: Originally posted by StiltMan Anakaris, I would say, is in the middle of the pack somewhere. He's not just astoundingly great, and nearly any team with Blackheart or Commando on it is probably going to hang him with his own bandages. However, if you don't have those or other similar tools to keep him on the ground, you're only rarely going to touch him. He can go up in the air, drop coffins on you all day, and you'll pretty much never get near him. same to me. __________________ Teams that owns all: Anakaris, Dr. Doom, Storm Cable, Psylocke, Anakaris Iron Man, War Machine, Psylocke Anakaris, Morrigan, BB Hood And I'm the only GOOD ANAKARIS user on RP!!! If The Mummy Returns, ANAKARIS RETURNS!!! Posted by Dark-Angel on June 24th, 2001 09:30 AM: Anakaris is not the worst char is just that man if they get him with a super he's like a gonner I just don't use him because of that! Posted by [MB2K]Venkman on June 25th, 2001 01:26 AM: anakaris is a badass... __________________ "Be water my friend..."-Bruce Lee. Posted by TheMummy on September 17th, 2001 02:19 PM: For now, he is not the worst for me, because I am already very GOOD at him, beating all cable users and other Top Tiers 17 matches straight!!!! __________________ Teams that owns all: Anakaris, Dr. Doom, Storm Cable, Psylocke, Anakaris Iron Man, War Machine, Psylocke Anakaris, Morrigan, BB Hood And I'm the only GOOD ANAKARIS user on RP!!! If The Mummy Returns, ANAKARIS RETURNS!!! Posted by Crayfish on September 17th, 2001 05:08 PM: Mummy, please can you give me some advice on the execution of Anakaris's Supers. I used to be able to do them fine in the DS series but in Marvel I can't seem to get them out. Is it a timing thing or what? Anakaris is my favourite character along with Shuma. Who should I make the third member of my team and why? How would the team work? Where is there a really good Anakaris guide here or anywhere on the net? Featuring basic to adv strats. *EDIT- have just seen Fluffy's on this thread. Still interested in any others tho. Oh yeah, I started a thread about low teir characters who are potentialy top teir killers. Lordelocke was talking about Anakaris potentialy being the strongest character in the game if you could play him with enough anticipation. Very interesting points made, I would like to hear your contributions on the subject. Here is the thread: http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/sho...?threadid=39266 *Lordelocke's initial comments are about half way down the first page onwards. Thanks, Crayfish. __________________ If you only ever download one movie your whole life: This should be it. Posted by aquarake on September 17th, 2001 06:43 PM: quote: Originally posted by illest_one ah ha. i knew silversam was gonna be on here. im surprised that nobody mentioned morrigan yet. i also do that multiple lightning super but you got to position your opponent correctly. anakaris is definitely one of the most underrated characters in the game. sure his defense is one of the worst but he has the one most damaging super in the game, good rushdown, good keep away, an infinite, speed and unpredictability. try connecting all of the hits with his super coffin drop cuz it takes 70% life if im not mistaken. anakaris believe it or not has a pretty good rushdown game with his pyramid thingy. i play anakaris like i play rogue. his coffin drops take a lot of life but just beware of commando users. he is not as slow as people seem to think. his ground dashes are pretty quick but one should NEVER EVER blindly normal jump unless its absolutely necessary (combos and rushdown). blah...anakaris is a really fun character to use! just the look on your opponent's face after u beat him with an anakaris team is worth the 2 tokens. hmmph someone mentions morrigan and i home in like a radar... definately not worst character. illest_one: dang if u are ever in california (or if they emulate mvc2 on kaillera) i'd like to play ya, see how the pros use morrigan. __________________ My other personalities: silverbolt Ershin (deis) Kudos to the deuce and prototype (TM) for the avatar. i cant do the goddamn shoryuken motion for the life of me. And im as good as i am right now in mvc2. Posted by jballa1 on September 17th, 2001 11:38 PM: Roll, Kobon, and Zangief are far worse than Anakaris. Posted by State of Nature on September 18th, 2001 01:40 AM: quote: Originally posted by tortoise How does Zangief land these moves? How will he get close? Can he double jump? teleport? air dash? wave dash? triangle jump? super armor? Is he small? Anything at all? He's practically the most immobile character in the entire game, who's entire gameplan revolves around getting close. Not a good thing in a game where keepaway is so strong. Seriously. Zangief needs to be close to do damage, and has probably the worst mobility in the game. He can't even wave dash. Tortoise is right, AAAs will kill him. If Zangief had the ability to gab assists, then MAYBE he would have his uses. But really, he can't punish assists which can keep him away all day. It also doesn't help that he's really big, which makes him even easier to pin down. Posted by InvincibleStorm on September 18th, 2001 02:28 AM: anakaris is just underused.he is one of the best but not top-tier though __________________ Storm is the Invincible Queen of all fighting games. She rules all. She is the ultimately best character in MVC2. She has no equal. Everyone must bow down to her supreme skills. Posted by LordLocke on September 18th, 2001 02:50 AM: Stilt: That Samurai may or may not have been me. I'm the only Nor Cal Samurai player I know, and although I don't spend a TON of time at Sacramento (too far of a commute to do for much except serious training for tournies and tournies themselves) I do pop in from time to time. Sounds like something I'd do to AAA's, tho. As long as it isn't Cable on point, I'm more then happy to rape AAA's for as long as got meter. If one of the partners was either Sakura or War Machine (two of my early Samurai rotation teammates) I KNOW it was me, although I still have my BH/Samurai/Doom team and it's variants that are a bit more common. And now HuStLeman is bringing up my OTHER low-tier character Venom... and there's Crayfish talking about how I think Anakaris could be the strongest character in the game if the player was inhuman... what is this, a thread MADE to draw my attention? I need to come to strategy more often. Well, I play Anak from time to time, and I think that if somehow a master of execution with semi-procognitive powers decided to pick him up, he could indeed be the strongest character in the game. He has all the tools to do it... it's just that Anakaris can't afford to guess wrong too often, and in a hectic game like MvC2, you either need to see the future or you won't be able to do that forever. __________________ It's not shopping if I don't plan to pay for it! Gaming Discussion's Favorite Mod... even without mod rights. From the desk of the Eternal Keeper of the Galactic Library Posted by AmingoStorm :) on September 18th, 2001 03:51 AM: First... Kobun is not one of the worst characters....i think. Its hard as crap to combo hom. He too small to catch most of the time. His "legion" like super does crazy blcok damage. For example pair Kobun w/blackherat, its simple,just do blackhearts anti-air assist and quickly do Kobuns "legion" super. Guaranteed block damage, and its alot. He is about block damage and cross ups mainly. And my opinion on the worst characters are HAYATO AND ROLL. Roll has ONE good assist and thats when she throws the flower. (dont know which type it is)She goes on and off the screen real fast. thats meee opinion __________________ I Play Pump it Up! Posted by TheMummy on September 18th, 2001 05:02 AM: quote: Originally posted by Crayfish Mummy, please can you give me some advice on the execution of Anakaris's Supers. I used to be able to do them fine in the DS series but in Marvel I can't seem to get them out. Is it a timing thing or what? Anakaris is my favourite character along with Shuma. Who should I make the third member of my team and why? How would the team work? Where is there a really good Anakaris guide here or anywhere on the net? Featuring basic to adv strats. *EDIT- have just seen Fluffy's on this thread. Still interested in any others tho. Oh yeah, I started a thread about low teir characters who are potentialy top teir killers. Lordelocke was talking about Anakaris potentialy being the strongest character in the game if you could play him with enough anticipation. Very interesting points made, I would like to hear your contributions on the subject. Here is the thread: http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/sho...?threadid=39266 *Lordelocke's initial comments are about half way down the first page onwards. Thanks, Crayfish. quote: Originally posted by Crayfish Mummy, please can you give me some advice on the execution of Anakaris's Supers. I used to be able to do them fine in the DS series but in Marvel I can't seem to get them out. Is it a timing thing or what? Anakaris is my favourite character along with Shuma. Who should I make the third member of my team and why? How would the team work? Where is there a really good Anakaris guide here or anywhere on the net? Featuring basic to adv strats. Oh yeah, I started a thread about low teir characters who are potentialy top teir killers. Lordelocke was talking about Anakaris being the strongest character in the game if you could play him with enough anticipation. Very interesting, I would like to hear your contributions on the subject. Here is the thread: http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/sho...?threadid=39266 *Lordelocke's initial comments are about half way down the first page onwards. Thanks, Crayfish. All you need is practice in executing all Anakaris' Supers. I've been playing Anakaris for 8 months!!! Trying to prove that Anakaris can do more than just pour some Sarchopagus Drops to the opponent. When executing combos with supers, don't look on the buttons, instead look at the screen and imagine that you will be able to do the combo & supers. That's my technique!! You should too try it! I don't know much about Shuma but I think you should include Dr. Doom for the benefit of Anakaris' Rushdown Tactic. When they are blocking Dr. Dooms assist, play with Anak's Rushdown. They will be kept guessing on Anak's moves. Pretty Effective!!! After they blocked Dr. Doom's AAA, try to capture them with Anak's Idle hands. When doing chipping damage, call Doom assist then s. jump and pour some Coffin Drops. Speaking of Anakaris' Idle hands, when the opponent is in the air. FEEL FREE in keeping a distance by doing a super jump and surprise him with Anak's Idle hands!!! Timing is essential to this part. When Cable(Example) tries to jump above Anakaris, quickly do the c. HP and do the Most Damaging Level 1 Super in MVC2. c. HP s.jump lp,lk, Pharaoh Cobra Blow Pharaoh Cobra Blow start with lp,hp,lk (same time) then when the three snakes reached the edge screen, start to push the hk. Then repeat until the super is over. (almost 80+ hits, 3/4 damage). Well, that would be all, that's how I execute my Most Powerful Team of all, ANAKARIS, DR. DOOM, STORM. __________________ Teams that owns all: Anakaris, Dr. Doom, Storm Cable, Psylocke, Anakaris Iron Man, War Machine, Psylocke Anakaris, Morrigan, BB Hood And I'm the only GOOD ANAKARIS user on RP!!! If The Mummy Returns, ANAKARIS RETURNS!!! Posted by stonecold on September 18th, 2001 08:57 AM: Anakaris can camp with his coffin down. I saw someone using Anakaris camping like hell against someone. Who doesn't have CapCom or Blackheart will die until his coffin down. __________________ And that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so..... All times are GMT. The time now is 03:52 PM. Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.0 Release Candidate 3 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.